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Personal finance is personal – one person can choose vacations over a nice house whereas another person would rather keep her creature comforts (and herself) at home. One decision isn’t better than another so it might seem that one person’s “cheap” is just another person’s “frugal.” I think though that both the people listed above are prioritizing what they want – which is good and not cheap. Cheap is a whole different other animal.
A Story of Cheapness
I got free tickets to a baseball game and invited my friend. He asked if he could bring his own food into the stadium. When we got to the game, my friend brought out a bunch of little snacks. And then he told me he had already eaten.
I was a little confused. If you were going to eat beforehand, you don’t need to eat at the game, which was at 7. My friend is someone who eats 3 meals a day. He doesn’t eat snacks or dessert regularly.
And then it dawned on me – he wasn’t bringing in food to save money – he was bringing in food to see what he could get away with.
Why Being Cheap is Different Than Saving Money
Personally, I’ve never understood people who sneak in snacks to the movies. I mean, I realize that movie snacks are expensive but movies are generally 2 hours long. They’re not so long that you’re going to need food or water. I can understand that other people just have the habit of eating during movies, so maybe that part is about saving money. But for me, sneaking food in would not be about saving money because I never wanted food to begin with.
I think part of the fun, though, is feeling like you’re subverting the system. It’s about what you can get away with, even if you didn’t want to do the deed in the first place. It’s like my friend – he didn’t need or necessarily want to eat at the baseball game but he wanted to feel like he one-upped the game (which he didn’t even pay for). I’ve also brought him to a hockey game where he got a free meal. He had already eaten, but that didn’t stop him from loading up on the buffet because it was free. If it weren’t free, he wouldn’t have bought anything. Because it was free, he ate it all.
In my mind, being cheap is doing stuff with the primary motivation is money.
The Problem with Being Cheap
I understand there are times when people need to feast and famine. If you don’t know where your next meal is coming from, then it probably makes sense to feast while you can. It might make sense to carry snacks with you in case you do get hungry because you can’t afford to buy a meal out.
My friend is not one of these people. He has a well-paying job, no debt, and few expenses. He could have bought something if he needed it. Also, and most importantly, he wasn’t hungry.
The problem with being cheap is that you let money dictate your decisions.
And I’m not here to judge. I think we are all a little guilty of this. For example when:
- You buy something because it’s being sold at a deep discount even though you don’t really want or need it.
- You pick the cheapest options even when better options in terms of time or convenience might be just a few dollars more.
- You eat free food that you don’t want or need and that might not even taste very good.
- You automatically forgo expensive activities because they’re expensive, no matter how they might benefit you in the future or how much enjoyment you would receive out of them.
Again, when money is tight, it makes sense that money is your chief consideration. But once you have some money saved, it makes sense to allow some other criteria into the mix, such as one’s own desires or needs, others’ desires or needs, or any long-term implications.
Don’t Let Money Be Your Dictator
I’m starting to become more mindful of my money decisions, but it’s a struggle. I’ve spent so much of my life scrimping and saving, it’s weird to think, oh hey, I can choose things that work better for me even if they cost more. Or, hey, maybe there are things more important to me than money. When I see my options laid out for me, it’s like pulling teeth to consider criteria besides money, but it makes sense to.
A lot of social activities will say that consumer purchasing has a lot of power in sending a message to companies as to what consumers want or value. I also think that your purchasing power sends powerful messages to yourself and others. For instance:
- When you scrimp on food or health, you’re telling yourself, wealth before health.
- When you are stingy with your friends and family irrespective of their desires, you’re saying, I value money more than our relationships.
- When you pick the cheapest option for your work or career instead of the one that works best for you, you’re sending signals to yourself that you don’t deserve it, that you don’t believe in yourself.
Again, sometimes we have to worry about every last cent, and sometimes we don’t. I hope that when we get a little more wiggle room, or when we have hotels filled wiggle rooms, that we then start to learn to dictate money to do our bidding instead of the other way around.
Why I Doubt The Statistics About College
The common refrain is that a college graduate will make $1M more than a high school graduate over a lifetime. Other studies show that high school graduates end up with a higher net worth than college students over a lifetime, even if the high school graduate works as a janitor. Another analysis states that the $1M figure fails to take into account graduates who take longer than 4 years to graduate, progressive taxes, present value dollars or those that make high incomes based on graduate school (lawyers, doctors, CEOs) and not college. Even a college proponent argues that the figure is closer to $400,000 and with college tuition topping $160k at 7% interest rates at many institutions, that might mean college proponents are saying the best case scenario is a break-even. Further complicating the matter is that these studies and estimates are from college students who graduated decades ago, and what was true for them is not necessarily true for students today.
Why Student Loans are Not “Good Debt”
When people say that student loans are “good debt,” they are basing this off the faulty premise that the loans will be easily paid off because college is obviously a good investment.
I think we are misleading a lot of people who don’t have these advantages. Saying college is a sure thing and saying college loans are “good debt” is not a victimless crime. With hundreds of thousands in student loans being given out like candy to people who will be unable to pay them back – mindless college cheerleading can set people back in their finances in an irreversible way that even a stupid decision like buying a sportscar cannot.
Why Student Loans are Often Not a Good Idea
Let’s talk about why student loans tend to be a bad idea. Let’s look at which students benefited from taking on student loan debt. In 2012, 71 percent of students graduating from four-year colleges had student loan debt (The site states that 71% represents 1.3M people, and thus, that must mean approximately 1.8M people graduated in 2012).
So this means 29% of graduates did not have student loan debt. And I think we can agree that those people did not benefit from taking on debt (because they didn’t take on debt) and would not have benefited from taking on debt. You could say, it doesn’t make sense to take on debt when you have cash – but that’s not true. Even though the rich may have cash, the rich take on multi-million dollar mortgages because the interest rates are so low and they can make more money by investing it. In contrast, rich people aren’t taking on student loan debt if they have the money because student loan rates are quite high. If you have the cash, you can take on the debt if it makes sense to you – as the rich do with mortgages. The rich are not taking on student loan debt needlessly though.
Anyway, back to the 29%. Whether they were on scholarship or their parents paid for it, this 29% of people will be included in the group of people where college pays off for them, and it’s likely that these people will do very well. They are either rich or smart/talented enough to go to college for free. While these people will be counted in the statistics for “college is a great idea!” they are likely people who would have done well without college. Anyway, I will count them in a group of people for whom student loans did not benefit. So this is 550,000 people.
Note also that the 71% statistic of students covers only those who are “graduating.” Only 41% of students graduate from a 4-year college within 4 years. If approximately 1.8M people graduated college in 2012, representing 41% of the people who entered college around 2008, that means 4.4M people were enrolled, and 2.6M did NOT graduate. Most of the non-graduates cite money as the reason for not being able to graduate. And if those nongraduates have debt, you couldn’t say that debt would have been good for them. (And if they didn’t have debt, again, taking out debt would not have benefited them). You might point to outliers like Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg as dropouts who come from the wealthy classes, but yeah, those people also did not benefit from student loans. Non-graduates don’t benefit from loans.
- 17% of those with student loans owe more than $50k (5% over $100k). Those people seem unlikely to do well, so encumbered by debt.
- 43% of college graduates are underemployed in their first job, meaning they work at jobs they have don’t require a bachelor’s degree. Of course, there is something to be said for if you have a college degree, you’re probably taking that janitorial job away from someone without one. However, it’s also possible that someone without a college degree was doing a great job as a janitor and would keep you from that job.
- In 2012, 44% of borrowers in 2007-08 took an undesirable job or job outside their field due to education cost.
- Based on projections, nearly 40% of borrowers may default on their student loans by 2023. Currently, 1 in 8 student loans is in default.
- At 15% of 4-year private and public nonprofit schools, 15 percent of students earn less than $25,000 per year, even a decade after they first enrolled. The data is worse for 2-year and for profit schools.
- Approximately 37% of college graduates obtain graduate degrees. Granted, one can only go to graduate school after obtaining a bachelor’s degree but I want to figure out the value of a college degree, not a graduate degree. Doctors and lawyers and MBAs are going to lift the median earnings for college graduates. Furthermore, many people likely went to graduate school because they did not think their college degree was sufficiently competitive in the marketplace.
Looking at the actual return on the costs of attending college, careful analyses suggest that the payoff from many college programs — as much as one in four — is actually negative. Incredibly, the schools seem to add nothing to the market value of the students.
What about that last 650,000?
Should you to go to college?
I started college almost 20 years ago. I went to a well-regarded public school in-state and my parents were able to afford my tuition and expenses because they had high-paying jobs and the tuition was more affordable. Today, the tuition and rents at the same school in the same town have quadrupled – but pay has not. Though it made total sense for me to go to college 20 years ago, it might not make sense for me to make the same choices today. A lot changes in 20 years. Beware of people who look back at their own lives as evidence that college is a good investment today. Past performance is not indicative of future performance and that person isn’t you.
Even if you’re not in a financial position to go to college (given the cost and your family’s finances), it seems like you still don’t have a lot of options. A lot of companies are holding students hostage by requiring college degrees for positions that never used to require them.
I think if you can afford to go to a top college without accruing a lot of debt, it will likely be a good choice. For those eyeing massive student loan debts in order to chase one’s college dreams, I hope you would consider that, college and student loans are a calculated risk. It might pay off, but it could very well be a huge mistake. One should consider every opportunity to save money such as :
- Taking many AP courses in high school to qualify for college credit
- Attending community college for the first two years and/or taking classes at the community college in high school or over the summer to save on credits at a more expensive school
- Applying for many scholarships and financial aid
- Delaying college until you know what you want to study and working in-between
- Working part-time in college (I knew a few people who worked full-time while maintaining a full course load, as well)
- Graduating early
College can be a wonderful asset to your career and a fun and rewarding four years – but don’t get blinded by the fantasy and ignore the finances.
Why We Don’t Care About Hard Work
How My Parents Got Ahead
1. My Parents Made Safe Bets.
Once, I met this woman in China who told me that she traveled to the country for months at a time every year for 10 years. Then she turns around to the DVD vendor and says in loud English “FIVE!” and spreads her hand open to indicate the same. This woman, who had spent months and months living in China, didn’t even know the Chinese word for “five.”
2. My parents lived within their means.
My parents went to state schools and my siblings and I also went to state schools. Living within our means for education and housing expenses has given all of us more flexibility in pursuing our careers.
3. My parents were entitled.
Following my example, on our flight, B asked the man sitting next to him if he would switch seats with me so we could sit together. He never would have thought to do that without following my example. For B, he would have just sucked up the missed flight or the mismatched seats as fate and paid for another ticket, and whatever other costs were associated with that, and sat separately.
I assume people are willing to help, and that’s something I learned from my parents.
Hustling saves money but it also gives you a certain bit of confidence. I don’t believe in “The Secret” but I do believe that optimism can lead to good results. If you believe something good might happen, you’re more likely to try new things, which is more likely to get you somewhere good than sitting on your butt. That optimism is very middle-class, very American.
4. My parents chased the jobs.
5. My parents were equals.
I note something else significant about our move to Virginia: I don’t know too many couples where a man has followed a woman for HER job. I don’t know too many couples where a man takes care of three kids and the house by himself while his wife is away, and also does so without complaining. I don’t know too many couples where the wife will move away from her kids to pursue her career. (And by the way, my dad has always made slightly more than my mother, so it wasn’t an obvious economic choice).
I realize it sounds like a small thing – my dad was not a complete obstacle to my mother’s career. He moved to make her job easier. But I have seen the reverse pretty frequently, even in subtle ways. It occurred to me recently that a lot of men will block their wives from advancing in their careers and, those who don’t actively impede are still unlikely to do much to support their wives, particularly when such support is to their own detriment, and if the wife is not earning as much.
Like my parents’ story, my very favorite political story (and this is a category without a lot of contenders) is a weird and controversial one. It’s about Ted Cruz buying 100 cans of soup. It didn’t resonate with most people because they don’t live in the same bubble as I do (and because so many people dislike Ted Cruz). I know so many hetero couples where, even though the woman is poised for an excellent career, the man still expects her to have domestic duties. This story was that rare opposite – it was Cruz making a gesture that he expected his wife to pursue her own career and that he was perfectly happy to take care of himself. (Also, I’m impressed with how spare his life is eating canned soup every day. PF blogger in the making right there!).
My mom is an all-around superhuman. I mean, she moved out by herself for a new job in her 40s leaving her 3 kids and husband behind and commuted between Virginia and New Jersey for a year. Before and after that, she worked full-time and cooked us dinner every night, which we ate sometimes as late as 9pm. Not to mention she moved across the world to a country where she had no connections, little money, and didn’t speak the language. (Same for my dad). So yeah, my mom is amazing. But my dad played a significant role in helping my mom’s career, something I think is notable and rare. Having two income earners really helped their/our financial stability.
But the point I’m trying to make is, it’s not all about hard work. I mean, my parents worked, but they focused on the right skills, rather than focusing on working round the clock. People in America don’t really get ahead by working hard at their jobs (but they do need to work at least hard enough not to get fired before finding a new job).
Do I feel bad that other people work harder than me and get paid less? No, it makes me feel good because it means none of us have to kill ourselves to get ahead. You need results, not exhaustion. Work smarter, not harder. Stay optimistic. And hey, always remember to ask.
I say I don’t read the news, but that’s actually not true. My homepage is an RSS feed on Yahoo! and I pay for subscriptions to the Washington Post, the New York Times, and the Wall Street Journal. When I say, I don’t read the news, I mean: I don’t follow what’s going on with Trump, I don’t watch TV news, and I try to read GOOD and inspiring news stories. The media generally does a good job of distorting our realities by showcasing the worst of humanity, but I like to distort my own reality by zeroing in on the best. So every now and again, I’d like to share some of the best stories I’ve seen on the web. The theme of this roundup is: makeup!
The Joys of Makeup
It seems like personal finance gospel that makeup is a waste of money and possibly anti-woman. Generally, I think the point of personal finance is never to denigrate another person’s choices so long as others aren’t hurt, the choices are conscious and the choices don’t interfere with ultimate money goals.
I unabashedly love makeup. It’s well-known that color can change your mood. An easy way to cheer up is to see red, like the red in a lipstick. As an artistic person, I’ve always been interested in paint, and makeup is an extension of that. It’s about drawing the light to certain areas and creating shadows elsewhere. Its contemplating symmetry, the Golden ratio and our preconceived notion beauty. It’s about optimism: a belief in change and the ability to change how others perceive us, becoming a new person with a swipe of color. And most of all, it’s just fun.
Wear makeup- don’t wear makeup. I don’t care. But I’m a champion of makeup and I’d like to highlight some stories of makeup changing the world for the better:
The first story comes from Rob Bell’s, book Sex God (it’s about the connection between sexuality and spirituality so it’s ironically, the least raunchy book you’re apt to read this year). I know I said this was about makeup but the first part is very sad, so power through and keep reading. [WARNING: the following is a graphic description of a Holocaust concentration camp]:
In 1945, a group of British soldiers liberated a German concentration camp called Bergen-Belsen. One of them, Lieutenant Colonel Mercin Willet Gonin, DSO wrote in his diary about what they encountered:
I can give no adequate description of the Horror Camp in which my men and myself were to spend the next month of our lives. It was just a barren wilderness, as bare as a chicken run. Corpses lay everywhere, some in huge piles, sometimes they lay singly or in pairs where they had fallen. It took a little time to get used to seeing men, women and children collapse as you walked by them . . .
One knew that five hundred a day were dying and that five hundred a day were going on dying for weeks before anything we could do would have the slightest effect. It was, however, not easy to watch a child choking to death from diphtheria when you knew a tracheotomy and nursing would save it. One saw women drowning in their own vomit because they were too weak to turn over, men eating worms as they clutched a half loaf of bread purely because they had to eat worms to live and now could scarcely tell the difference.
Piles of corpses, naked and obscene, with a woman too weak to stand propping herself against them as she cooked the food we had given her over an open fire; men and women crouching down just anywhere in the open relieving themselves. .. [a] dysentery tank in which the remains of a child floated.
Bell uses this description to show the inhumane conditions that were thrust upon the concentration camp victims. This was after the Nazis had left after all, so they weren’t still terrorizing these people. Yet the conditions remained un-human. It wasn’t that the actions the people performed themselves were un-human. There was nothing wrong with relieving yourself anywhere, eating worms, or piling up corpses – because those were necessities of their circumstances.
If you were going to pinpoint the exact part that was un-human, it was the lack of care. They couldn’t care about anything because they were so starved – not just of food, but of respect, esteem and individuality. People will cry “don’t care what other people think” but humans are social animals. And when you really stop caring what anyone else thinks of you, perhaps because people treated you like you were nothing to care about, you lose yourself.
It’s like Karamo Brown says on Queer Eye: “You try to act like you don’t care about how your house looks, how you look or the fact that people are no longer in your life. And I’m not buying it.” It’s human to care. When we don’t care about what others think, about how we are perceived, about taking care of ourselves, something wrong has happened.
It was shortly after the British Red Cross arrived, though it may have no connection, that a very large quantity of lipstick arrived. This was not at all what we wanted, we were screaming for hundreds and thousands of other things and I don’t know who asked for lipstick.
I wish so much that I could discover who did it. It was the action of genius, sheer unadulterated brilliance.
I believe nothing did more for these internees than the lipstick. Women lay in bed with no sheets and no nightie but with scarlet red lips, you saw them wandering about with nothing but a blanket over their shoulders, but with scarlet red lips. I saw a woman dead on the postmortem table and clutched in her hand was a piece of lipstick. At least someone had done something to make them individuals again, they were someone, no longer merely the number tattooed on the arm. At last they could take an interest in their appearance. That lipstick started to give them back their humanity.
Other Positive Stories from the Week
A Police Officer Adopts a Baby from a Homeless Woman – his smile is infectious.
The Orioles are Wearing Braille Jerseys
A wife writes about one small thing her husband does that makes her feel loved. What’s more beautiful than his act, is that she notices and appreciates it.
Good habits to try:
I talked with Stephanie, an expat living in Brazil, about dating while pursuing financial independence. This interview is part of a series about dating and money. Read the previous installment here. [This conversation has been edited for clarity.]
1. Tell us where you learned about money.
I learned from my parents more what not to do with money than what to do with money. My mom was an accountant but had her own business. My dad also owned his own business and I saw a lot of the struggles there. There’s so much variability in entrepreneurship. If your company doesn’t do well, it can be a strain, not having steady projects. It’s influenced me not to be an entrepreneur.
I was 1 of 4 children. My sister had a project, how much can a family live off of per meal. My family came up with $1 per person per meal. She went to a private school and her teacher said that’s not possible. And we said, yeah we’ve been doing that all the time. Because I couldn’t ask my mom and dad for money, I learned that I didn’t truly need extra things.
2. Tell us about becoming an expat and your FI journey.
I’ve always wanted to live overseas. I studied abroad in college in Sweden but it was only for 4 months so it didn’t satisfy my wanderlust. I did a 2-year rotational program with my company. At the end of it, I ended up finding a department in my company hiring quality engineers to live and work abroad.
I had an offer to move to Siberia Russia to do almost the exact same job that I currently do. Even though I want to work overseas, the location wasn’t going to work for me. But the offer of Brazil came in after someone else backed out. My initial contract was 2 years. I got it extended for 3 years.
Someone had already given me the idea of “live like you’re still in college and save the rest.” Even after I graduated from college, I only lived on 50% of my income. And then I was a little lost; my next financial milestone was retirement when I was 65.
My roommate told me about Mr. Money Moustache and I read the entire blog. Financial independence means I’ll have enough life savings that I don’t have to work if I don’t have to. I plan to be financially independent when I’m 32.
Being an expat for my company means, I get my normal salary plus several perks like my car and rent paid for. Being in Brazil means I get one meal daily paid for. My biggest expenses are travel, groceries, gas, and shopping. Being an expat allows me to save a lot of money.
3. Do you have any tips on saving money?
I save somewhere around like 98% of my income. Even before I moved to Brazil I saved 50% of my income.
But it can be difficult to save. There’s still temptation: “Oh I’m making more money. I can go on extravagant trips.” And I won’t tell you I don’t go on extravagant trips. But I know which things don’t matter to me. It’s not like I have X budget to go on a trip but instead I think, how can I do this in a cheap but comfortable way? Let me look for a hotel that looks nice but is of good value. This is what sounds like the coolest experience and here is how I can still save money in the process.
At some point, I would like to motivate people not to bite off more than they can chew at a younger age. I’ve heard horror stories of people getting out of college with $100,000 of debt. It’s important to make smart decisions early since it will impact your future self. Student loan payments can translate to $500/month, which is the same as I was paying for rent after college. That’s like paying double rent for 30 years.
The difference between what my sister makes having gone to an Ivy League college and what I make [going in-state] can be offset with good internships and negotiating your salary.
4. What was the most surprising thing you learned about living as an expat?
The biggest frustration is the feeling that everything you think is normal is not normal and could totally be something different. The first time I drove into São Paulo for the weekend I went to an area of town that seemed a bit rundown by my standards and to park my car, without being able to communicate in Portuguese, I gave someone my cars, they handed me a little slip of paper and I just had to hope that my car would be there when I came back. For the first several months everything you do kind of feels wrong and still after two years I still have situations that feel wrong.
The other thing is, as you start to learn other languages, it’s a learning process and funny when you translate things back into your native language for example I went to the dentist and said Dentista! and walked upstairs. But in America, you wouldn’t walk in and say Dentist! and then just walk to where you needed to go.
5. What was your worst FI dating experience?
I went to an all-you-can-eat soup and pizza place. I picked up the pizza with my hands and people in Brazil don’t touch their food with their hands the look on his face was priceless. I also tried to pay for myself on that one too.
6. Who picks up the check?
Sometimes when I get into situations where I know that I don’t like them, I’m going to offer to pay and do things to show that you’re not interested.
Brazil is a masculine society and it would be expected for a man to pay the bill however I tend to make significantly more than my dates, so I still offer to split the bill.
My ex-boyfriend was on the same financial independence path that I was on. But where I’m at right now I want him to be financially independent. I would love to find someone with the mindset but I’m not holding out for that because I don’t think that’s a possibility here [in Brazil].
7. Best piece of advice for dating and money
You need to give people a chance. Even if they don’t click all of your boxes at the beginning is not a reason to dismiss them. Finding people who have lived abroad gives them something more in common with me. And they’ll hopefully start to understand that people are different. Otherwise it’ll be hard for them to understand about my daily challenges and experiences about living in a foreign culture.
I’m looking for someone that wants a relationship. That doesn’t seem so common. Perhaps because I’m looking on Tinder.
A lot of people have said that financial independence is not achievable on 20-30k. But I’ve always had the mentality that if I’m 32, I will still do something else with my time since I’m not going to sit on a beach for the rest of my life.
Also what’s the harm of me being financially independent? I’ve run into some people who have a very skeptical opinion or disbelief of being able to accomplish financial independence so young. But I try to let go of the negative thoughts and do what’s best for me.
One of the other struggles I’ve really gone through with planning to be financially independent at 32: I have no real constraints with location or money. I don’t have a family or kids. I don’t have anything that’s pulling me into one of the things. It’s leaving me in the middle of figuring what I want to do. I know I’m going to want to do something else with my life. I have a life coach to figure out what I want to do after financial independence.
I’m definitely planning to take some time off and travel but the big unknown is what happens after that. It’s a little exciting when you take out the constraints, but also a challenge. It leaves me able to think about the bigger view of the world and try to do something that leaves the world in a better place than I started.
The internet is a strange and fascinating place. You can get a lot of information here, but not all of it is stuff you should follow. Generally, you should be wary of everyone and anyone because the internet is a crazy unregulated place. Lots of people are just writing content in order to sell you stuff. And some others are just idiots.
How I Got Lucky
My high income is directly tied to attending law school. So I could write an article about how everyone and anyone could go to law school to get a high-paying job, right? But I would feel that that was disingenuous. I know enough about my journey to know that the path was not guaranteed.
The timing of my law school graduation was fortuitous. I started law school four years after I graduated from college. If I had graduated law school in 2008-2009, I probably would have been fine for two years, but if I had tried looking for another job after that, I likely would have been stuck due to the recession. If I had graduated in 2010-2011, I would have graduated into an unexpected recession in the legal field, where many graduates were unable to find any legal employment, let alone high-paying jobs. There is some research that shows that the graduates from those years are still lagging behind financially compared to graduates from other years before and after the recession.
Instead, I graduated in 2012, which wasn’t the best of years, but showed vast improvements in job prospects over the 2010-2011 graduates. Furthermore, we all already knew that the job market was difficult and were going in eyes wide open (I started law school in 2009).
Still, I was also lucky to be hired. Interviewing is still a bit of a black box to me. People just like certain people more than others. (Perhaps you could be cynical and say it’s all white men hiring other white men, but I’m not white or a man, so that’s likely not how I got my job.)
There are certainly bad candidates, but we interview dozens of candidates from good schools with good grades and most are perfectly fine. I don’t have a real understanding for why I was picked. And I feel lucky that I was. I know someone who graduated near the top of my class who couldn’t get a job at any law firm and was still meandering years later.
Then there were the people who got fancy jobs but hated them. I know someone who decided to quit even before starting his job. I know more than a few people who rage quit after a few years. They did everything right, but, for these people, the legal field just wasn’t for them. (They could have switched to different legal jobs, but the people I’m thinking of just got out of the legal field altogether). Some people might think that they could have researched more about the legal field before going to law school but working at a law firm as a secretary or paralegal, as many college graduates do before pursuing law school, is not really a good indication of what it’s like to be a lawyer. Like most things, you have to do it, to really know what it’s like. And I was lucky that I was largely happy with my job.
The Trouble With Following Other People’s Paths
Pre-recession, law was seen as a very safe and prestigious job. Post-recession, there have been a lot more horror stories.
The main trouble with any kind of big investment like law school is that you don’t really know how it’s going to turn out. There are all these forces outside your control that will determine whether you view your decision as a good or bad one. If someone graduates into the recession and can’t find a job, then the decision seems like a “bad” one. If the person gets a lucrative job, then it’s a “good” decision.
But each person started the decision with the same information. It’s a poor way to judge the thought process of a decision by its outcome when it was external forces that changed the ending. (For more on this topic, I would highly recommend Annie Duke’s Thinking in Bets.) You can make perfectly good decisions that go awry for reasons outside your control. It doesn’t mean the decision is a good or bad one. It just means that luck was involved.
We Don’t Definitively Know What Decisions Led to Any Person’s Success
If you were running an experiment to determine cause and effect, it’d have to have controls and be double blind. Real life is not like that. Most people don’t have an identical twin who was making the same decisions at the same time and chose the opposite path – and then continued to make identical choices keeping that one decision the only variable.
What most people think is, well I became rich. How did I do this? And they retrace their steps. But they aren’t considering what would have happened in the alternate reality if they had pursued other jobs, other careers, other spouses, other lifestyles and how the timing affected how those decisions turned out. And truly, even if they did consider this, they would all be guesses.
We Can’t Even Trace Our Own Decisions to Success
I made a spreadsheet for myself of when I would break even for law school. I assumed I would continue working for the job I had at the time and save the same amount.My break-even point was only a few years ago, even though my salary out of law school was 4x my original salary.
But I had to count the opportunity cost. It was 3 years without working and $200,000 tuition. Also, I was quite a little saver before I went to law school, so I think I would have continued that, which would have been particularly beneficial because I would have been saving while the stock market was low. Of course, I also had to assume that I would have been steadily employed throughout this whole time period.
Was going to law school the right decision financially or career-wise? I don’t think I can even answer that question without much more information and until I’m much further along in life. I don’t know the ending to my own story yet, so I certainly can’t tell you if going to law school will be right for you. For right now, the decision is fine. That could change.
We Don’t Even Know If Someone Is/Was Successful
I recently received a comment that detailed a woman’s tumultuous relationship with her husband. The relationship was absolutely fantastic for 10 years. And then it got tougher. They say that hindsight is 20/20, but that’s not really true. Our hindsight in 10 years may be different than our hindsight in 20.
I’ll see people (usually celebrities) touting relationship advice after only dating someone for a few months. Even if they’ve been married for 30 years, we can’t really judge if someone’s relationship advice is sound. We don’t know if they’ll make it 31 years. People get divorced later than that.
People tout skincare advice when they’re in their 20s. The true test is obviously what happens when they’re in their 40s and beyond. People tout career or financial advice when they’re in their 20s or 30s (hey, I’m included in that list!). I will be the first to admit that I have no idea what I’m talking about. I mean, I try not to give advice. I am just telling you my thoughts. I have no extra wisdom for you. (Sorry.)
So someone might have an immediate success right now, but that doesn’t mean they know what got them there. It doesn’t mean that they’ll stay successful. That doesn’t mean that that success was a good thing (because maybe if they had failed, they could have gone a different way that would have led to even greater success somewhere else). We could look at any number of luminaries who were called failures at one point. Steve Jobs was a failure when he got fired from Apple and Abraham Lincoln was a failure when he lost his first campaign. But we would be wrong to have written them off as failures. The arc of the universe is long.
Be wary of people who are only part of the way along their paths. They don’t know their true ending yet.
Even if We had the Information, We Shouldn’t Judge Decisions by their Outcomes
As much as we all want to say that the difference between the rich and poor is the right decisions, there’s a lot of luck involved. The same decisions that make people rich also can make people destitute.
- I went to law school, got a high paying job at a law firm and worked for long enough to break even.
- Others go to law school and graduate with crushing debt and poverty-level jobs.
- Still others, get the high-paying job and quit to pursue other ventures, still having to pay the hundreds of thousands in debt.
- It was a great decision for Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates to drop out of college to start their own businesses.
- The failure of other businesses has led some to homelessness. And dropping out of college generally doesn’t work out that well.
- Some people get married and have a stable job, leading to wealth.
- For others, the breakup of a marriage and a bad economy can lead to destitution.
- The breakup of a marriage can lead to financial ruin all by itself.
- There are likely people who invested in index funds or bought a house in a good area, lost their job or got a health emergency that stretched out longer than expected and had to withdraw money at a loss during a recession.
Why All Financial Advice is Flawed
- Living within your means, to the extent it’s feasible.
- Developing skills that will be profitable to you and others.
- Surrounding yourself with good influences and a good environment.
- Investing in index funds.
But many of the other decisions you may make – whether to choose a STEM major, whether to become a lawyer/doctor/plumber, whether to get married or stay single – those routes worked for some people but might not make sense for you. The best we can do is to carefully consider our options and try to make a decision that – if everything falls apart – we hope we can be happy with.
Today is my birthday. So it is my God-given right to dole out unsolicited wisdom I have gained from being old. 35 Tidbits of Wisdom because I turned 35. You’re welcome.
1. Believing you can improve is the first step to success.
I have a bit of a beginner’s luck problem. I tend to be pretty good at things on my first try. I bowled over a 130 in my first game. I got a flush in my first poker hand. I’ve always aced standardized tests.
This doesn’t seem like a problem, but in performing well without trying, I was less equipped to overcome obstacles when they inevitably came. I assumed I would just continue on easily until my ability ended. I chalked difficulty as a sign that I shouldn’t continue – that I had reached my peak and it was all downhill from there.
After reading Mindset: The New Psychology of Success, I was extremely sad to think of the things I had quit when I had encountered difficulty – hobbies, relationships, dreams. Now I’m more likely to pick up hobbies where I might have to face obstacles. I don’t want to quit when I’m behind – I want to either never quit or quit after I know I’ve given it my all.
2. Do a little bit every day.
Now that I know I need to improve, I try to work on all the things I would like to improve on a little bit everyday. As part of my belief in beginner’s luck, I also had a certain degree of perfectionism. I didn’t believe in working through obstacles (because you should just work perfectly and never encounter obstacles) and I only believed in practicing in bursts (probably because one shouldn’t try too hard and needing to work everyday means you probably aren’t meant to do it). But I’ve found that working a little bit everyday builds a habit, and provides better long term results.
So instead of thinking about perfect practice, my only goal for every day is to get a little bit better or to try at all. If you practice a little bit everyday, you can’t help but get much better over time, even better than if you had practiced for long stretches inconsistently.
3. Believing in your dreams is important.
This is the part of The Secret that’s not crap. If you believe in something, it makes it much more likely to come true.
The people who are successful did not have perfect lives. They are not the most privileged. They are not the luckiest. Every person who succeeds believed they could. Many who fail believe they can’t – and many haven’t even tried. Belief means you’ll try, and you’ll try confidently and longer than you would if you didn’t believe. Belief is not enough for success but it’s necessary.
4. What you think about your life is more important than what actually happens in it.
I read this anecdote about a woman who, before she was shown into her nursing home room, stated that she was going to love it. Her guide asked how she could know she loved it without seeing it. The woman replied that she had already chosen to love the room no matter what it looked like. Happiness was a choice she had made and it wasn’t dependent on the circumstances of her life.
Too often we think that something needs to happen to us before we can be happy. Then when it happens, we wonder why we aren’t automatically happy. But that’s because happiness isn’t something that happens to us – it’s something we choose every second of the day (depression aside).
5. People are more similar than they are different.
I heard a commercial that said that humans are 95% similar and we spend all our time arguing over the last 5%. We forget that this person before us is basically the same as we are.
It’s a weird thing to think when we are living in such a polarized time but I’ve always been amazed at how similar people ultimately are. I think about this every time I watch a movie about family struggles. Or about finding true love. Or even a movie about finding a fulfilling vocation. There is no group of people who doesn’t empathize with these tropes.
I think when we are growing up we have this idea of bad guys and good guys. We think if we put ourselves in another person’s shoes, we would behave differently. It’s freeing to think, in large ways, we are results of our genetics and our environments. We are all reacting to different genetics and different environments and that largely makes us different people. But I think if we had the same genetics and environment, we would all be much more similar. So yes, even though I just said above it’s all about what your attitude about your life is, I still have a lot of empathy for people who got dealt a rough hand. The thing is, if you’re dealt a rough hand, you still have the same responsibility for doing the best with it you can.
We all have the responsibility to get better but we can’t judge too much. We like the music that was popular when we were 13. We are unlikely to like jobs where most of the people are unhappy. We are likely to be happy in jobs where others are happy. If it works for most other people, it will probably work for us. (But see #34). Be wary of when others make a big deal of differences between people; often those differences don’t exist. People are similar.
6. Try to remember you’re important for who you are.
Even as I say we are all similar, each person’s voice is still vital. It can be easy to think that you’re just one in a million and that that makes you replaceable.
Sheryl Sandberg writes in her book Option B: “Adam and his colleague Jane Dutton found that counting our blessings doesn’t boost our confidence or our effort, but counting our contributions can. Adam and Jane believe that this is because gratitude is passive: it makes us feel thankful for what we receive. Contributions are active: they build our confidence by reminding us that we can make a difference.”
You can make a difference. Try to remember instances where you have. You and your contributions are vitally important.
7. Practice being happy/grateful/abundant/at peace right now.
If you can’t be happy right now, you won’t be happy when you make more money, when you lose weight, when you retire.
If you’re not happy now, figure out why. Don’t put off your happiness believing that something else is going to happen.
It’s not the same to give when you have abundance. People recognize when you are giving out of scarcity and they appreciate it more. You can’t replace the sacrifice later in life when you’re comfortable.
8. This is the secret to happiness: Find a way to love the things you have to do, find time for the things you already love and minimize stuff you hate.
Life is short; there’s no reason to spend so much time doing things you hate in the name of “improving your life.” Being an adult should be about having the freedom to find the crossroads between joy and growth and health and financial stability and spending quality time with others.
9. Corollary: spend your money to increase doing the stuff that makes you happy. Minimize time and money spent on stuff/experiences that don’t make you happy.
This seems super obvious but no one ever does it. I hear people complain all the time about how unhappy Facebook makes them. Don’t read it, I say. Yeah, I guess I could do that, they say. But then they don’t.
Cut your time and spending on things that don’t make you happy or don’t have a purpose. Find the cheapest simplest things that make you happy. Do those as often as possible. And then, hopefully, you’ve freed up some money to do the more expensive things that make you happy. It’s a process but I find it’s a fulfilling one.
10. Once you have the necessities, take the time to rest.
Unless you’re a minimalist who works in a coal mine, you don’t need more clothing. You can get your shoes resoled. You can borrow books and movies from the library. You don’t need new furniture or new decor.
At 10 years, your phone probably won’t work anymore and your car will likely die. You will need a new mattress.
You will run out of food and water and toothpaste eventually. You might pick up some hobbies and some instruments. But enjoy the period when you don’t have to buy anything. Enjoy the period when you don’t have anything more to do. After you work out, rest. After your work day, rest. Don’t always be trying to get to the next thing.
11. The hardest part is being content.
You can get caught on the treadmill easily, see #10. Pick your goal, stick to it, stress less. People think achieving the goal is the hard part, but it gets even more difficult when you find new and greater goals. I’m content with my money? Why? Because I said I would stop worrying when I had saved $X and when I hit $X, I said, previous me thought it was enough and I don’t have enough evidence to say it isn’t enough. So I have no choice but to be content.
And I am.
There’s all this negativity running in our brains and a lot of it, you can’t even find the source. So much of what people believe is them repeating negative beliefs that someone said to them when they were a child. I’ve read so many of these: the kid who mocked your clothes or said this or that wasn’t cool or desirable. The girl who told you to laughed at your skinny legs. The boy who made fun of Kylie Jenner’s lips. People start believing these random terrible thoughts and they change their lives because of them. Instead of thinking, this kid’s an idiot, it’s “I have to change my lips!”
These memories are then triggered by other people who had no recollection of these previous memories or how it would affect them. And then we lash out at the triggers. And the relationships get ruined. Be careful what you think.
13. You don’t get bonus points for worrying.
I wish I could tell all women this. Yes, men worry too. But I’ve never known a man to wear his worry with pride. As in, I worry because I care more. I can out-worry you.
Worry almost never helps. And it usually hurts others and yourself.
If social media makes you feel bad about yourself, eliminate social media. Put a lock on your phone and your computer. Put yourself in places where you will be forced to put them down.
Consider unplugged dinners, camping, or just putting your tech in a different room so you can read or play. There’s a whole world out there.
15. Don’t pick your scabs.
Literally and figuratively. Don’t ruminate on the past just to self-flagellate. Don’t self-flagellate. Don’t dwell in regrets. Don’t dwell on things you can’t change.
16. Discomfort is a great thing.
I saw this article once that said to be uncomfortable everyday and then listed ideas like biking and turning off the a/c. I’m surprised he didn’t add “walk through sketchy neighborhoods.” Ok people die without a/c and when biking when unfamiliar. I mean, small discomfort is something you should do. And it builds resilience. It keeps you from staying on the couch all day. It keeps you changing and learning and growing. Discomfort can be a great thing (see #1).
17. Communication is an art, not a science.
18. Learn not to take things personally.
Two lines that resonated with me.
Gabrielle Union in Health Magazine: “No one who’s ever said anything super negative to me has an amazing life. Once I realized that, it’s different than, like, J.Lo saying, ‘Her squat form wasn’t right.’ Because she would know. But you, in your mom’s basement, really?”
Just because someone said it, doesn’t mean you have to internalize it, react to it, or even acknowledge it. You don’t have to take everything to heart.
19. Be kinder than you think the situation warrants.
You will never regret giving someone the benefit of the doubt. (Just don’t give them any money.)
Something I try to do everyday: take the 30 day Most Important Person Challenge.
I also liked what Whitney Cummings wrote in Tim Ferriss’ Tools of Titans. Imagine the person as a small child. Imagine the person having a bad day. Always think in your mind “I love you” when speaking to someone to whom you might get angry or be mean to. Even if it’s a stranger. Particularly if it’s a stranger.
20. #19 includes being nicer to yourself.
Try to take the advice you give to your friends. Not because I think you’re a hypocrite, but people tend to be much nicer to their friends than themselves.
21. You can bring good or bad into the world every second of every day.
Every news story you click on is a vote. Every social media post can make or break someone’s day. You change the world every day. You know the butterfly that flaps its wings turns into a tornado, or something like that? Imagine if a person does one thing good or bad and the results it has on the word.
This was the situation for a friend of mine who worked in social media. She tweeted what she believed to be hilarious political burns on her personal account. Some people found it funny. But her company was afraid of the effect it might have on clients. Her boss had warned her multiple times already.
It was at this point that my friend complained to me about this event and how she felt she needed to post freely. But I imagine it’s hard to find a job in social media if you’re fired for impropriety on social media. The lack of income puts a strain on your marriage. You complain about the marriage stress constantly to your friends, who would like to support you but are embarrassed at your lack of responsibility for the whole situation. And you’re thinking, why do you have to post negative stuff? Simply, why?
I think we have grown accustomed to believing that negative stuff is more important than positive stuff. And while it’s important not to believe everything is perfect when it’s not, I think negativity is only useful if it can lead to positivity. If you post about something terrible, it should come with some understanding that we can help. It doesn’t help just to be outraged day in and out. Negativity CAN lead to positivity but it doesn’t necessarily lead to it. We are just making the world a little bit worse with every negative post and negative comment. And with social media, we’re all public figures now (not necessarily in a legal context).
I try to post positive content as much as possible. If it’s a mocking tweet, it’s mocking an idea or teasing a friend. I try to retweet positive stuff as much as possible. Because every tweet is a vote for good news.
There’s a Rumi quote I like that is often misinterpreted:
Yesterday I was clever, so I wanted to change the world. Today I am wise, so I am changing myself.
It’s not that you give up changing the world and instead focus on changing yourself. It’s that if you change even one little action you make, you’ve already changed the world. They also say environment is more important than willpower. Can you imagine being surrounded by positivity for the day – what that would do for you – what that would do for all people who have to deal with negativity? Be the positivity in the world.
One more point for positivity: see #12 above where I mention that Kylie Jenner got lip augmentation because one boy made one comment. Those lip implants led to Kylie Jenner’s $1B lip makeup fortune, an uptick in lip implants (up 43% since 2000) and very likely increased lip envy for millions of women. If that one butterfly boy had shut his lips maybe more women could be content with theirs.
22. No one cares what you look like or how your life looks.
You’re not Kim Kardashian. (Unless you are. Hi Kim!)
So many of people’s beliefs of what they look like and how they compare are formed from some random kid in elementary school. People will make snap judgments, sure. But that kid doesn’t think about you anymore. Stop thinking about him/her. No one is looking at you and judging you. And if they are, they don’t matter. No one who matters is wasting their time like that.
23. Say your thanks to the people you love.
I heard this on Tim Ferriss too – (ok fine, I’m a Tim Ferriss fan. My ears perk up when I think about him. I’ve had a lot of breakthroughs just listening to him). But he gets on a plane and wonders if he dies whether he would be happy with his life. And I always think about whether I’ve told everyone I loved them enough. Told them everything that has changed about my life because of their influence and guidance and love. Do it. You won’t regret it.
24. Spend time with people who know different and more than you.
It makes me a little weirded out that people spend so much time with people similar to them. And I’m not even talking about their families, which I think is pretty normal. I’m weirded out by Christians who only hang out with Christians (btw I’m Christian and that’s why I’m picking on Christians). I’m weirded out that so many people don’t know any Trump supporters. I’m weirded out by Asians who only want to hang out with other Asians (sorry West-coasters, there just aren’t that many here). Millennials who only hang out with millennials.
I definitely default to an rich well-educated bubble, but I try my best to get out. I volunteer, I date, I travel, I used to meet randos on Craigslist personals. This has greatly expanded my understanding of the world and my empathy.
25. The answer is rarely the atomic bomb.
You have bad bacteria so you use antibiotics. The problem with antibiotics is that they don’t discriminate – they kill the bad along with the good.
The problem with cleansers is that they kill everything. Acne medicine kills the bacteria and dries out your skin.
When you dislike one part of the person, people will throw the whole person out.
When making decisions about people, it always seems like people are very willing to discard people without thinking about where they would go. Oh let’s treat white supremacists like trash. Ok, but humans are social creatures and will find another place to congregate away from you. What then? Oh, felons shouldn’t have jobs. Ok, but what happens if you have an ex-con who doesn’t have money? They’ll commit more crimes. Ok illegal immigrants are sent back to their country but they’re in poverty. Oh that sexual harasser doesn’t work here anymore, he works over at that other company.
So many “solutions” to our problems are thrusting them on weaker populations. It’s out of sight, out of mind. It’s getting rid of the bad, but it also gets rid of the good. There’s no chance to be redeemed. And even if you don’t care about the “bad people,” it’s not an easy solution when you throw everything out. It’s like getting rid of a predator in an ecosystem – it’ll come back to bite everyone.
26. Alcohol, bad foods, and bad habits will kill your looks.
It’s not that youth is more beautiful than age. People are more beautiful when they’re young because their bad habits haven’t caught up with them and most people have bad habits. The young have a reprieve from consequences for a period of time. You can become stronger and more beautiful as you get older. In fact, I believe people are most beautiful after their 20s because you see the compounding of good habits.
27. Look at your body but don’t obsess over how it looks.
It’s very important how your body looks – but not in the way that most people care about. If you’re bruised or your leg is broken, well that matters a whole lot how your body looks. You need to be able to see that to get help. If you are breaking out in a rash or acne, that’s a sign that something is going on with your body. Figure out the cause. That’s the important thing.
Looking at your thermometer is to ascertain the temperature, not to see how beautiful the thermometer is. You look at your body to make sure you’re healthy first, not to assess how beautiful you are. There’s a movement so that people won’t be forced to see their weight at the doctor’s office or won’t be weighed because it makes them feel bad. Get weighed! It’s important to see weight fluctuations for your health. It’s not important because of beauty.
28. Health before wealth.
People pay such lip service to this idea. I liked Tim Ferriss’ quote after he faced Lyme Disease that he would cancel meetings if he really needed the sleep. How many people would give themselves grace to get sleep if they need it? (And I know everyone will say, well I can’t do that because I have to go to work. But how many other things are you sacrificing for your health that have nothing to do with work?)
29. There are no magic beauty potions.
You will get cellulite. Personally, I don’t think it looks bad.
You will get wrinkles. Hopefully where you were once smiling.
You will get sun damage. Well, you should have worn sunblock! But you got your Vitamin D. and Vitamin D is important.
Aging is inevitable. It doesn’t mean you are less beautiful. Don’t spent too much on products that claim to do the impossible. Moisturize and then live your life.
But my hands do a ton of work and frankly they’re a mess. When your hands are a mess, peeling and cracking, cuticles in disarray, it hurts like a …well it hurts a lot. And your hands age quite early. We talk so much about self-care these days. I wonder if we are just doing the self-care that gets noticed the most – like in our face – and ignore the parts that we think matter less – like our hands. Take care of the things that are less glamorous. That’s how you really know you care about yourself.
It’s very hipster to be scowly. It’s very average to be on your phone. It’s very normal to think, oh that person is boring, this conversation is boring, I’m bored. It’s very extraordinary to be interested in someone else and to take the onus of the conversation on yourself. This is basically how all good conversationalists do it – they let the other person talk but lead the conversation somewhere interesting. Good conversation is not about talking a lot; it’s about making the other person feel heard. See Oprah.
As an ENFP, I’m always trying to make connections in my life. What does this mean as a symbol for my life? What is this all leading to?
In contradiction to #5, I heard this from my doctor and I was astounded. I went to go see her about my one meal a day diet, worried she would chastise me for doing something so stupid. But she noted, I looked and felt fine and my vitals were good so it was probably ok. It didn’t matter what others might say. People are different and what works for the experts might not work for me and vice versa.
This list is an excellent example.
These things work for me. They may not work for you. I love reading tips and tricks from other people, not because I think there are some magic bullet cure-alls. But they are ideas that I can think about and try out. Maybe I’ll find a little improvement there or there. Maybe it won’t work at all. But the beauty of the internet is that we can share all these stupid things that work for us.
I mean Monoi oil was a game changer for me (repels bugs). It might not be for you. But you never know what little trick you have may help someone else. Don’t intrude. But share what you know.
35. Everything is a waste.
Whatever you’re spending your time on, I mean it’s stupid. We are all going to die. You can’t take the time, the achievements, the loved ones. There’s nothing objectively more useful than anything else. The time is going to be spent whether you want to or not. The money will be spent or disappear. It’s all wasted. It will all be forgotten someday. Try to have fun with how you waste time.
All in all, be wary of listening to other people’s advice, including mine. We get to where we are and we have theories about what helped us to get here, but we didn’t conduct double blind controlled studies. We just lived our lives and made our best guesses, sometimes finding cause and effect where there was none. It may be helpful to you but it might not. Take whatever is helpful to you and disregard the rest. I hope there’s something in here that is helpful to you. But as you can see from reading this list, it’s a little bit contradictory.
Ultimately, this is a list that shows what I have learned and how I live my life. It may be completely irrelevant or even immoral to you. But I invite you to make your own list of lessons to show what matters to you. I’d love to read it.
Due to simultaneously having a high salary and spending a middle-class one, by next year, I will have saved an amount that equivalent to what a lot of young FIRE (financially independent and retire early) bloggers have saved per person for retirement. And honestly, I could live at home right now and have basically no expenses so I could retire early already.
It’s just that I have no desire to do so.
It’s not that I love love my job and I’m not saying I’m going to work until I die. But for the time being, working full-time at a challenging job with a steady paycheck is the goal, whether I have enough money to live on a beach for the rest of my days or not. Here’s why.
1. I don’t have wanderlust.
A gorgeous beach with a beer in your hand – could you imagine anything better?
I’ve seen all these FIRE bloggers discuss how they vacation. Hanging out at beaches, cooking at home, cute insular family time. I enjoy going to the beach. For a few hours every year. It won’t bother me to go more often, but I don’t yearn to go more.
I could take the beach life for a few days. This is not how I am used to vacationing. Our family has always been type-A vacationers. We pack many cities and countries into every visit. We take crash courses on the language and the culture. We ask the locals for the best restaurants and try all the specialties. We spend a lot of time in museums.
The problem is, you can only go Type-A vacation for so long. I’m pretty tired at the end of a week in unfamiliar surroundings, eating unfamiliar food, speaking an unfamiliar language.
And you could say, we could do it easier, but I’ve tried that too. I’ve lived abroad for a year. I could see how life as an expat would, but to be honest, all I wanted to do was go home and set roots down in America. I have no desire to knock out more countries off a bucket list or live the life of a traveler. I wanted to get my “real life” started.
2. The lifestyle is not enough for me.
Not only is a short-term beach vacation not that enticing for me in the short-term but I also don’t see it being enticing in the long-term. As Jordan Peterson described this path: “‘I see myself retired, sitting on a tropical beach, drinking margaritas in the sunshine.’ That’s not a plan. That’s a travel poster.”
It reminds me of Penelope Trunk’s advice that what people (particularly stay-at-home moms) want is not to quit their jobs, but to obtain part-time jobs that are meaningful. Unfortunately, those don’t exist. To get the meaning, you often need to put in the hours and the sacrifice.
Many articles about FIRE try to sell both the freedom from constraints/stress and the freedom to pursue passions. Worried about being bored? Well, you can still get a job. The thinking is that if you work at your passion, you won’t have any stress! But it’s not really true that you can get all the benefits and none of the downsides. Not working would greatly reduce your stress but you might lack meaning in your beach-life. Working might give you back some meaning but you would add back some stress.
I guess I’m talking out of both sides of my mouth in this one. You are ultimately the one that gives your job meaning, ergo you can imbue even a part-time job with meaning. But one cannot just assume that getting rid of the job is a stress-free, meaning-filled existence. You are responsible for adding the meaning – and you probably have to start adding meaning while you still have a job and not expect it to materialize the day you quit.
3. I wouldn’t change anything about my life now.
A lot of people talk about how retirement would mean spending more time with family. Well, I am very happy with the amount of time I spend with my family. And friends. And generally how much time I have to vacation.
Because I understood that I would need to work, I had already put the onus on myself to enjoy my work and my life outside of work as much as possible. It’s like how everyone I know says they don’t make New Year’s resolutions because if it’s something that they want to do, they’re starting today, not waiting until the New Year (why are all my friends so self-improvement-y?).
The same thing goes with creating a life you love before you FIRE: if you want to spend more time with your family, figure out what you’re doing that’s keeping you from spending time with them. If you’re working 80+ hour weeks, then yeah, you’re probably not spending time with your family and well, that’s going to take a toll real quick. But most people aren’t working that much. If you are working 40-50 hour weeks, you should still have time to spend with your family. If you’re not doing that, having even more time doesn’t mean instant time with your family.
People think FIRE is a magic bullet for their problems. But just as you don’t instantly get meaning, you don’t instantly stop wasting your time. Winning the lotto doesn’t mean you’ll develop fiscal responsibility. More time doesn’t equal time responsibility. And when you develop time responsibility while you’re working a job, you have less reason to yearn for more time – you’re already doing all the things you want to do even with a job.
4. It’s really not an achievement for me.
I can see people doing FIRE just to impress others. Dude, I’m not even judging. I ran two marathons just to say I ran marathon[S] with an ‘s’. I can be a prestige-whore as much as the next guy. But if you make a good salary and you live a middle class lifestyle, you’re basically par-for-the-course in my social circle. A lot of my friends are high achievers from middle class upbringings. Most people I know live very reasonable lives with high salaries. There’s no “gotcha” that I can rub in anyone’s faces. Pretty sure everyone has basically the same or more savings as me. None of them would be impressed with my savings and I’m pretty sure they’d all think, well you’ll be bored. And they’d be right.
5. It’s too individualistic.
Compared to American culture, Chinese culture emphasizes the community over the individual. You can see this in the art where the subject of a piece isn’t as large as one might see in Western art. You can see this in the language with the extensive use of passive voice. You can see this in many Chinese people’s relations with their family. Compared to American kids, Chinese kids tend to give their parents’ and extended family’s needs and desires a lot more weight in their own personal decisions.
This goes back to it not being an accomplishment for me. After my friends tell me I’d be bored, they’d probably ask, well what about your family? My family is fine. My parents are retired comfortably with a pension. My brother has saved way more money than me, having never been to grad school and having lived at home for quite some time. My sister has 3 kids, and I’ve started 529s for them. Currently, everyone’s self-supported, but I am never looking out just for my own interest.
A life where I cannot contribute to my family’s stability is not a stress-free life for me. A life where I can’t contribute to my charities of choice or my community is an empty one. Sure, I could fund my own lifestyle, but I want to be able to have back-up reserves if my family ends up needing it. I want to be able to support more than just me.
Why I’m Not Fire
I understand there are certain ways to define retirement that still involve working. Athletes retire from the sport due to age, but they’re not expected to rest on their laurels for the next 80 years. People retire from the military and go on to other jobs. These are all reasonable uses of the word “retirement” even if it can be strange to hear an 18-year old speak of “retiring” from gymnastics. Some FIRE bloggers “retire” from a job they hate to a job they love. To me, that’s called “changing jobs.” Will I switch jobs? Undoubtedly. But the term “retirement” in that scenario is meaningless.
I think you can work and earn money in retirement too. But not every single scenario can count as retirement – otherwise we could just call it “being financially independent,” which is basically the same as saving money. And obviously saving money is a good idea. To me, retiring means living a life where you have to rely on your financial independence and your job is not central to your life. You don’t have to want this lifestyle ever, but that’s what I consider to be retirement.
My parents have retired and they spend their days watching their grandkids, doing hobbies, puttering around the house and traveling a bit. They are very happy and stress-free. I think part of the bliss of their retirement is that their kids are taken care of, and they believe they’ve gotten as far in their careers as they desired. They also had a lot of stress at their work and find a lot of meaning in their current lives.
For me, I know the rat race is a little stupid. And I don’t aspire to be CEO of the world or have a super prestigious job. But I do want to see where my career takes me, and to me right now, that seems more fulfilling than lying on a beach.
- “I’m an introvert so it’s hard for me to brag about myself” (extroverts don’t have a monopoly on bragging);
- “I’m an introvert so I don’t like making small talk for hours with strangers at loud parties.” (actually, no one likes this);
- “I’m an introvert so I lack self-confidence” (those are completely different things).
I think something about introversion and extroversion got lost in translation. It’s great that people are finding out more about themselves and their personality tendencies. It seems that in learning about ourselves, however, we can often incorrectly attribute our own tendencies to all people like us, and assume that the opposite is true of all out-group people.
So an introvert that likes to Netflix and chill may assume that extroverts can’t stand the solitude. (Truth: everyone likes to Netflix and chill). Or an introvert that hates people thinks that all introverts hate people (nope! That’s called misanthropy, not introversion).And so on.
1. Extroverts vastly outnumber introverts.
Most introverts seem to think they’re in the minority and this creates an us vs them mentality. The truth is that there are no hard statistics. Some researchers estimate that 50-75% of the population are extroverts. Of course, that leaves open the possibility that there are an even or close number of extroverts and introverts (50-50, 60-40). Other research suggests that between one half and two-thirds of the population is ambivert – that is, both introvert and extrovert. So introverts and extroverts BOTH might be in the minority.
2. Everything social is easier for extroverts.
People often confuse introversion for shyness, anxiety, or lack of confidence. Likewise, people confuse extroversion with talking too much, fearlessness and arrogance. The actual dichotomy is that introvert and extrovert brains function differently in response to dopamine and acetylcholine. Dopamine rises when we take risks and seek novelty. In contrast, when we read or use our minds, our brains release acetylcholine, which makes us feel relaxed and content
Extroverts lack dopamine and thus need to seek it out via social settings. Extrovert brains also aren’t as sensitive to acetylcholine. Introverts, conversely, have a lot of dopamine already and are sensitive to acetylcholine. This is why introverts tend to avoid crowded places — introverts can quickly become overwhelmed with dopamine. Also, because of their sensitivity to acetylcholine, they will get quite a lot of contentment from quiet activities. Extroverts and introverts are just responding to the chemicals in their brain that give them the most rewards.
Based on this description, it’s clear that extroverts have no natural advantage in social situations – it just explains why they seek it out more. And again, everyone’s reactions to dopamine and acetylcholine are a little different so it may be true that extroverts seek a little more stimulation than introverts but not necessarily much more.
As I discussed with an introvert friend, he sometimes felt exhausted by the idea of getting ready to go out for a social situation, even though he liked being social. I, an extrovert, relished the idea of preparing to go out, even if it was not to go to a social situation. It’s not the social aspect, necessarily, but sometimes I need a little more external excitement than an introvert.
3. Extroverts hate silence and being alone.
The optimal balance of chemicals that differentiate introverts from extroverts is different for each person. I’m an ENFP, which is one of the most introverted types of extroverts, so I need time alone. I live by myself and can read for hours with no music or external noise. I work in a very quiet office without much social interaction. This is not something that all or most extroverts, or even introverts, can handle, but I love it and need it.
4. Extroverts aren’t shy.
5. Extroverts are [negative connotation].
I think it’s great that people are talking about introversion and extroversion and learning about themselves. But I think it can be dangerous to use this introversion/extroversion as a lens to understand everyone and everything .
Maybe you meet someone extroverted who is arrogant and loud. Maybe you meet extroverts that are great at parties. These anecdotes are not indicative of all extroverts. Some extroverts are arrogant and some are modest. Some are loud and some are quiet. Some extroverts have natural charisma, some worked very hard to develop those people skills and some are awkward and weird. The same is true for introverts.
The other side of this coin is that introverts see their own social weaknesses and attribute all introverts as having the same problems. Introverts think that they can’t be good at networking, public speaking or any other “extroverted” endeavors and that couldn’t be further from the truth. These are all skills that need to be learned and practiced.
Why It Matters that When Introverts and Extroverts Don’t Understand Each Other
It wouldn’t necessarily matter that introverts are wrong about extroverts except that often these assumptions cast extroverts in a negative light or fail to empathize the universal problems that all humans have. Introverts and extroverts all suffer a bit in social settings. It’s only natural now, when our society has moved away from tribes where everyone knew each other to live in huge cities far surrounded by strangers. (I actually heard about this when an author is describing why people are awkward.) Meeting people is hard. Putting yourself out there is hard. Being vulnerable is hard. If I’m good at any of these things, it’s because I forced myself to do them often- it didn’t come naturally from being an extrovert.
Your personality type is not your destiny. Nor is your personality type an excuse to keep you from advancing in your career/life. Everyone is still responsible for improving in areas that don’t come naturally to us, whatever they may be.